NAGINI

[Lily Snape]

Idea brought to us by: MONICA. And she asks..

"Is Nagini the snake Harry set free in book 1? I've always thought so... and I'd love to hear what others thought.."

[daisymiller]

I've actually never thought of that before. It is possible, I suppose.

[Lily Snape]

Maybe if Harry talks to Nagini he'll recognize her 'voice'? I mean, he DID talk to this snake...

It would be very unlikely, though...I mean, the animal would like Harry, wouldn't it? Since it let him go?

Unless it was under the imperious by Voldemort...

But we'd have to know the breed of Nagini before we determine that.

I contradict myself too much

[dawnfelton]

I'm not to sure on that, I mean in book one the snake was relatively small but Nagini i always imgained to be HUGE. but then again Voldy could have performed a charm to make her bigger. If that is true Nagini is also another one of Voldy's followers in Harry's debt.

[Lily Snape]

Well you also have to take into consideration that it was 4 years after Harry set her free, so she probably grew?

[dolface546]

Wow, I've never thought of that. I don't think it is, but there is always a chance. It just seems like a stretch that JK would think to loop that back, and it was also such a minor point in that book too.

[Monica]

J.K. always hints at stuff way back in the beginning. I mean, what was the point of us knowing that Harry set Nagini free? I mean, yeah, it was a clue to the whole parselmouth thing, but I've always thought it served a greater purpose.

And then, you are all thinking its small, its one of the longest snakes in the world. A Boa Constricter, I believe.

And yes, as dawnfelton pointed out; thats another creature in Harry's debt. Thats another reason that I believe that its the same snake. Then Harry is owed by TWO beings on Voldy's side. And that should make things interesting.

Another thing is, Harry and Nagini have never seen each other. Nagini wouldn't know WHO he was fighting until they came into a face to face battle.

Don't you all find it just a little bit odd that so soon after wormtail finds him, he has a follower? Even if it is a snake? I doubt that it was a snake from the forest; he said himself none of those animals would go near him. If he found Nagini, of course he wouldn't know who Voldemort was. He would stick with him, maybe thinking Voldy could help him find brazil...

[dolface546]

oooooo, nice. I wasn't thinking like that but I am now!

[Monica]

Yes! I've got one on my side!

[Lily Snape]

I think it's a very plausible theory. Even if Nagini came unwillingly.

Because, if you think realistically, animals can sense evil better than we humans can. They know bad from good just by sniffing the air arond them. So I don't really think Nagini came willingly.

But, to contradict myself, maybe Nagini noticed that Voldemort could speak her language, and was reminded of Harry, who ofcourse could also speak to her. The boy who set her free.

I think this theory could very well be true--whether it be that the snake was brainwashed, imperiused, or came willingly to the side of Voldemort, I think that it's a very good throught to think on.

I just don't know, though--I mean, would JK really tie the snake back to the very first book? What would be the point to it? Maybe Nagini is just Voldemort's pet, placed there for effect. I mean, what is a dark tyrant who can talk to snakes, without a pet snake?

and if someone has book 1 ( I only own 3-6 ), check and see if it ever tells us the snake's gender, and come back with the type of snake. I thought it was a reticulated python, among one of the largest snakes in the world.

I wonder if Kat has a pet snake....

[Monica]

Well, yes I think its plausiable that Jo would tie the snake in book one back to book 7. The point of it would be that there was yet another servant of Voldemort in Harry's debt.

And its a Boa Constricter.

Pg. 28 American Hardcover: "The boa constricter jabbed its tail at the sign again and harry read on: This specimen was bred in the zoo. 'Oh, I see --- so you've never been to Brazil?'"

In book 4, Nagini is describe as being "nearly 12 feet long." The average boa constricter is about 8-10 feet long, but there have been known cases where its gotten as long as 15, sometimes even 18 feet long.

Notice it was also called 'it.' We aren't given a gender.

[Lily Snape]

Hmm, nice research there, Monica! This leads me to believe even more in this Nagini theory...And yes, Boa's get pretty big, especially with magical influence lol

[Monica]

Yeah, I'm such a nerd with research projects...