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Post by Lily Snape on Aug 11, 2005 11:27:29 GMT -5
MORE topics from surfing the net...gota love it
The HP LEXICON reckons that Tom Riddle was born in 1927, and was at Hogwarts 1938-1945. They say McGonagall was born in 1925 and was at Hogwarts 1936-1943, so there is some overlap between them.
So since they went to school together, and are two years apart, why couldn't she have offered some of her memories of him to Dumbledore? Did she not know enough about him? They were most definately school mates...
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Post by daisymiller on Aug 13, 2005 9:04:13 GMT -5
Yes, but they were in different houses. Maybe they never even saw each other? It is a big school.
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Post by Lily Snape on Aug 14, 2005 0:19:02 GMT -5
yes but Tom Riddle wasn't exactly unknown to the students--he was brilliant, in the slug club, and given awards for special service to the school, even! McGonagall had to know of him, to have an encounter or two that oculd help us further determine his character as a child. It's appalling to me that it's almost as if these two never knew each other! >.< When in fact, they knew of each other--hell, who's to say they didn't rival each other like Draco and Harry do?
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Post by daisymiller on Aug 14, 2005 19:05:53 GMT -5
Maybe her memories have already been viewed by Dumbledore, and were found unimportant? Due to their age differences it's most likely she only saw him in hallways, in the Great Hall etc. If that is the case, those memories would hardly help Harry.
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Post by Nefarious Scumbag on Aug 15, 2005 6:49:35 GMT -5
Or maybe her memories made a relationship too strange for fanfiction.....
Then again, what's to say she would remember anything significant anyways? She was a teenage girl/witch locked up in a school with a bunch of teenagers with raging hormones (even if JK doesn't believe people "snog" until they are 16..... makes you wonder about her high/prep school experiences, maybe all Dumbledore could get was "ummmm that riddle is dead sexy" or "I'd love to figure out that riddle, if yannow wut I'm sheyin'"
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Post by Lily Snape on Aug 17, 2005 16:29:34 GMT -5
This is true, but do you really think McGonagall was the type of lady to swoon for SLYTHERIN boys, even as a teenager? Idk, I don't think so. I think maybe she's in denial about ever knowin' him? Or as a Slytherin, she didn't know him well enough to have memories. I just figure that even so, he was popular, so she had to have seen him around--and been able to judge his character
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Post by Nefarious Scumbag on Aug 17, 2005 22:28:42 GMT -5
just because he was a Slytherin doesn't mean that she Can't or wouldn't like him..... look at her now, she's a groupie. I could swear her and dumbledore could have had something going (which is sort of creepy considerin the fact that Dumbledore was teaching her when she met him), she's a whore for success and Tom Riddle..... I mean, my master was the poster boy of success in his day (and in the present too!).
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Post by daisymiller on Aug 18, 2005 6:58:01 GMT -5
Do you have any cannon (or is it "canon"? I was never a good speller) evidence to support the "her and Dumbledore could have something going on" theory? I was just wondering. I've seen similar assumptions and I never really noticed anything between them in the books. Maybe I'm just slow . . . .
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Post by Nefarious Scumbag on Aug 18, 2005 10:18:22 GMT -5
I think it's more of one of those gut feelings you get about them.... you just know somewhere that something's happening, or wants to happen, even though you only have subtle little hints or suspicions to go on..... sort of how boyfriends come to the conclusion that their girlfriend is cheating.
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Post by Monica on Aug 20, 2005 12:22:57 GMT -5
Well, since this isn't a thread about Girlfriends and boyfriends cheating, or Dumbledore and McGonagall being together... GET BACK ON TOPIC!
Anyway.
I think that it is very likely that Minerva knew Tom, because he was so well known, but whose to say Tom knew Minerva? I doubt she was on the Quidditch team, or anything else that would make her really well known around the school.... Except for acedemics, and since Tom was so good at those himself, why would he pay attention to a gryffindor student? If she was prefect and/or head girl, he may take extra percations so that they wouldn't come in contact, so she wouldn't find out about anything shady he was doin'...
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Post by Lily Snape on Aug 23, 2005 16:23:05 GMT -5
I think he knew of her, she had to be very smart. A lot of people know who Hermione is because of that brain of hers, it would't surprise me that Tom would know her by the same association.
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Post by dolface546 on Aug 29, 2005 21:41:15 GMT -5
I agree, I think that she knew of him but nothing that Dumbledore wouldn't have already known.
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Post by Monica on Aug 30, 2005 17:17:17 GMT -5
Yeah, thats probably the most likely. Cuz, I mean, besides the Weasleys, we don't know of any older slytherins who talk to Hermione, unless to bug her about her heritage, and as far as we know, Minerva's a pureblood.... right?
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Post by Lily Snape on Sept 3, 2005 11:57:11 GMT -5
well, we thought that about Snape too, but as it turns out... That just boggled the mind, sorry. lol I think it would be cool though, you know, if Tom and Minerva knew eachother better than we think. I smell a group fanfic coming on....
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Post by Monica on Sept 4, 2005 22:37:54 GMT -5
Lol, well, in fanon anything is possible.
In the real world, she didn't come out and say their ages, and nor has she severly hinted at the conection. And any literary analyzer knows that if: 1. The author doesn't hint at something it probably not very important 2. If the author doesn't come out and tell you somthing, then they may not want you to know about it....
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